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"this week" with george stephanopoulos starts right now. >> president trump reaches out. >> we're trying to work things out together. >> dining and dealing with the democrats. >> i'm having dinner with senator schumer and nancy pelosi. >> enraging his base. >> he's going to get creamed on this. this will be an electoral nightmare for republicans. >> and putting top republicans on defense. >> first off, um -- there's no agreement. it was a discussion. >> how long will the new approach last? do both sides have the will to make it work and get results? are we now seeing an independent president trump? that debate on our "roundtable." and my exclusive interview with british prime minister theresa may. hours after that blast on london's subway.
can may's hold on the power and america's special relationship survive president trump? you say that president trump that has an affection to britain. it doesn't seem like the british people have an affection for him. and north korea fires yet another missile. >> our options are effective and overwhelming. >> has this brinksmanship put us on the edge of war? that question for national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. we'll break down the politics, smoke out the spin. the facts that matter this week. good morning. as we come on the air this week, there is breaking news on the terror attack in london. a subway explosion that left 30 injured. a second arrest overnight. a 21-year-old man in london. that comes on top of a teenager also in custody. isis claimed responsibility for the attack. britain on the highest state of alert. braced for more. the mayor of london warning the public to remain vigilant.
the attack at the height of rush hour friday morning. just after i landed in london for my interview with prime minister theresa may. we reported the breaking news on "gma," speaking with two eyewitnesses who described the panic on the subway as a fireball burst through the carriage. just a few hours later, i arrived at 10 doing street for my conversation with the prime minister. she joined us in winston churchi lrk l's old bedroom after a series of briefs and also tweets from president trump. he tweeted that the people were, in the sights of scotland yard. is that true? >> i don't think speculation is good. the police and the security agencies have doing the work necessary to discover the full circumstances of this cowardly attack that's taken place. and to identify all responsible. i'm pleased to say our emergency services were on
the scene of the attack immediately. and, once again, i admire and thank them for their professionalism and bravery. >> the rest of the city has carried on. you said in the wake of the other attacks, enough is enough. things need to change. it's time for some embarrassing conversations. what did you mean by that? >> it is necessary for us, to look, as we are doing, at whether our police and security services have the powers that they need. the full capabilities. we review after any incident takes place. we have had sadly a number of terrorist attacks this year in the uk. >> do they have to powers they need? >> the exercise is being done. i've given them extra powers. when i was hoim secretary before i became prime minister. we look again, but one of the issue that we really need to be addressing, i'll be raising this, when i'm at the united nations, is the question of the use of the internet by terrorists. for terrorist planning. and also, the -- using it for the spread of extremism. of hatred. propaganda that can inspire and
incite terrorism. >> are you going to need companies like facebook and google to do more? >> we're talking to them about doing more. and, indeed, companies have come together and formed a global forum to look what they can do to deal with this quickly and in a better way than they do at the moment. so we're working with the companies. >> president trump also tweeted this morning that the solution is a bigger, tougher travel ban. that's an idea you have been against. is it something you would reconsider? >> i think what is important is that we're able to have the powers to look into people, to identify people who may be wanting to cause us harm and are plotting to cause us harm. and to be able to take the necessary action when people do cause us harm. as it happens, here in the united kingdom, when i was home secretary, i banned more extremist hate preachers, i excluded more extremist hate
preachers from coming to the uk than any home secretary before.
>> including richard spencer, involved this charlottesville, was banned. we want to talk about that now with the president's national security adviser, general h.r. mcmaster. thank you for joining us. you heard the prime minister there. she was surprised at the president saying scotland yard hat the perpetrators in their sights. where did the president get that information? >> the president was communicating something not surprising at all. law enforcement professionals have these organizations under scrutiny. >> not these individuals. >> what's great about the relationship with the united kingdom is how closely we work together to gain visibility of these networks and understand how they're trying to infiltrate into our own countries and place our own citizens at risk. >> to be clear, the president did not know from any intelligence that he had that scotland yard had these perpetrators in their sights,
did he? >> as i have said. what he's meaning to communicate is that we -- we look at these organizations every day. try to map them every day. and what we learned after the mass murder attacks of 9/11, is that integration of our effort, between overseas intelligence operations, domestic law enforcement, working with international partners, is one of the most important ways to protect the american people and really to protect all civilized peoples from these murders. >> you heard the prime minister say we have to find new ways to cut off the terrorists' use of the internet. that echoes something the president was treating friday nong as well. he said, loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher manner. their main tool is the internet. which we must cut off and use better. what does he have in mind? >> he's been a leader on this, along with prime minister may. he laid out his vision on how to defeat these terrorist organizations when he visited riyadh earlier in the year. with over 50 muslim ma sxwrort nations in attendance.
he said we have to do three fundamental things. deny them safe havens and support bases. isis or al qaeda in their so called caliphates. in the greater middle east. the sec thing we have to do is cut off their financing. finances they depend on to be able to organize attacks, plan attacks. bankroll a lot of the extremist organizations that propagate this hatred and intolerance and advocate for violence. and this third thing is related to that. which is to defeat their evil ideology. and, prime minister may has been a real leader in this in connection with understanding better how these terrorists use the internet and then block their ability to use that kind of communication to reach vulnerable people to essentially pull them into these brainwashing organizations that fill them with hatred. and direct them toward violence against innocent people. >> the president talked about a larger, tougher travel ban.
is that something you're going to propose? >> if you can't screen people effectively, to know who is coming into your country, then you shouldn't allow people from that country to travel. so what the travel been is is a first step, a first step in better screening. better sharing of information. to encourage governments to meet the requirements that we have to -- so that it allows us to protect our own people. >> will we see a new one? >> well, this is something that we're looking at is how to protect the american people better. how to ensure that we know who these people are, who are moving. because the strength of these terrorist organizations. why this is a greater danger than ever is first of all their ability to communicate. to connect what would otherwise be disconnected cells in other places of the world. the second part of this is their ability to travel. and to move and to move people
and money and weapons often times drugs and other elicit goods internationally. part of the strategy must be to interdict these networks. interdict them from how they use information and communicate. and how they move physically. >> the president is coming to the u.n. to giver his first speech to the u.n. general assembly. here's what he said about the u.n. in the campaign. >> the united nations is not a friend of democracy. it's not a friend to freedom. it's not a friend even to the united states of america where, as you know, it has its home. >> will that be part of the president's message to the u.n. on tuesday? >> it will be part of his message that the united nations needs to reform. and the united nations has to reform to meet the goals and objectives laid out by the great secretary-general there. and, to be true to its charter. you know, any international organization has a broad range of perspectives within it.
and what we have seen in recent years is that certain nations are undermining key committees. key organizations. >> the president will say the u.n. is not a friend to america? >> in way that cuts against our interests. >> the president will say the u.n. is not a friend to america? >> well, parts of the u.n. have not been. look at the human rights council that is populated by countries whose actions against their own people are particularly heinous? and so what's important is to focus on reform. the secretary-general has laid out a strong road map. ambassador ha lerks -- haley is supporting the secretary-general with a luncheon for the people signed up for the reform program. the president is going to say the united nations can't be effective unless it reforms and achieves a higher degree of accountability for member states. some member states are trying to infiltrate and subvert key units within the u.n.
for example, the telecommunications efforts within the u.n. are being subverted by a country that actually wants to dominate that field and wants to restrict the flow of information. >> stunning headline in "the wall street journal" right now. i want to put in on the screen. the trump administration seeks to avoid withdrawal from the paris climate accord. article says trump administration officials said saturday the u.s. would not pull out of the paris agreement, offering to reengage. in the international deal to fight climate change. according to multiple officials at a global warming summit. is it indeed possible that the united states might not withdraw? >> so what the president has said is that we're withdrawing from the paris accord. he left the door open to reentering if there can be a better deal for the united states. the president's objection to paris was not the objection to the environment or the climate. in fact, he made a pledge, if you go back to his speech,
he said we're renewing our commitment to have the cleanest air, cleanest water. but that -- that -- agreement was not good for the environment. it gave the biggest polluters, the biggest carbon emitters a free ride. and so, we also want to emphasize, real energy, energy security, and then also, clean fossil fuels. clean fossil fuels can continue to lift millions out of poverty around the world. so what the president wants is a more effective approach to energy and the climate. >> right. the but was very clear in the statement. he said the united states will withdraw. that withdrawal can't take place before 2020. if you can renegotiate better terms before 2020, the united states will not withdraw? >> i would just go back to what the president said. he's open to any discussions that will help us improve the environment. ensure energy security. and advance our prosperity and
the prosperity of american workers and business. >> it's possible that the united states would stay in if you can get a new agreement. >> if there's an agreement that benefits the american people, certainly. let's talk north korea. the president tweeting about that overnight as well. he said he spoke with president moon of south korea last night and asked him how rocket man is doing. long gas lines forming in north korea. too bad. i assume rocket man is kim jong-un? >> well, it appears to be so. that's where the rockets and missiles are coming from. is north korea. >> what does the president mean that the sanctions passed this week were not a big deal? nothing compared to what ultimately will have to happen. what ultimately has to happen? >> we all have doubts about whether or not that is going to be enough. we have to prepare all options. make sure all options are under development to ensure that this regime cannot threaten the world with a nuclear weapon. so that's what we're endeavoring
to do is maximize pressure through sanctions. recognizing this is a very significant but not a decisive step. the sanctions have just now been put in place, as well. the critical thing is going to be to get all countries, everyone to do all they can, to enforce those sanctions. do everything they can short of a military conflict, to resolve this problem. >> do you see any evidence at all, general, any evidence, that kim jong-un is ever going to give up his nuclear weapons? >> well, he's going to have to give up his nuclear weapons. because the president has said he is not going to tolerate this regime threatening the united states and our citizens with a nuclear weapon. >> you're saying the president will strike if he doesn't give up the nuclear weapons? >> he's been very clear. all options are on the table. >> on the iran nuclear agreement, the president promised to rip that up during the campaign. he's been under great pressure from our allies from theresa
may, the president of france, the u.n. secretary-general, not to abandon that nuclear deal with iran. what is going to happen? >> as the president said, it is the worst deal ever. it was not good for the world based on really what it gave the iranians. all the benefits up front. the enforcement mechanisms have been executed in a weak way. it will be very important to verify that iran is not continuing to do what they had been doing already. >> they are come plying with the agreement, aren't they? >> too much heavy water. enforcing is really going to be critical. we have to make sure that no deal with provide cover for the iranian regime to develop a nuclear weapon in a clandestine matter while they're reaping the benefits of this deal. meanwhile, look at what iran is doing in the region. they're engaged in a broad range of destabilizing behavior that has created and is perpetuating a humanitarian and
political catastrophe in the middle east. with isis and al nusra in way that is keeping this arab world perpetually weak. and enmeshed in conflict. they're using terrorist groups and militia proxies. to advance their interests and threaten their neighbors. this is the kind of behavior that has to be confronted around the deal and where it's appropriate within the deal. >> if we could get that deal with north korea, we would take it, wouldn't we? >> i don't think so. i think we recognize significant pitfalls in this deal. what the problem is in north korea has been for years, as you know, we negotiated with them before. north korea has then entered into these weak agreements and then immediately breaks the agreements. the agreements in the past have done for north korea is locked in the status quo as the new normal.
allowed them to continue to develop more programs. that's why we are now where we are now with north korea. we need a different approach with north korea. we may have the opportunity to engage in talks. they better be under fundamentally different conditions than we
have begun those talks in the past. >> general mcmaster. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, george. more now from the ranking democrat on the house committee, congressman adam schiff. thank you for joining us this morning. let's start with north korea. the general saying north korea has to get rid of their weapons or face a strike. your response? >> my response is i think we're doing what we need to do, which is tightening the economic noose around north korea. we're going to need to make sure china fully complies. when we lose our focus, china goes back to business as usual. with each provocation from the north, we have to up the pressure and force them to the table. i think that is the only way of resolving this. right now, the united nations,
we need to make sure that those that have agreed to the sanctions live up to them. and underscore we're willing to sit at the table, resolve this diplomatically. we need everyone working together on this. we can't have the president of the united states calling our allies appeasers. we can't have him acting, frankly, in conflict with his own secretary of state. secretary of defense. this is going to be hard to accomplish. we need to be pulling in the same direction. right now, too often general mcmaster is talking about a president not that we have but one that he wishes we had. instead, we have a president taking steps through his p pronouncements and tweets that can be very counterproductive. >> it seems that president trump may be finding a way to stay in the paris climate change agreement. >> well, i think that would be wonderful. it's very difficult to tell day to day what the administration intends with climate, with the dreamers, and any host of other issues. but look. we should invite the administration. encourage the administration to reconsider. i think it was probably the
single biggest relinquishment of american leadership when the president basically said, we're walking off the world stage on climate. if they can be enticed back, i think that's very positive. i don't know why it is so hard for this administration, whether on climate or on iran or on our strategy of defeating isis to acknowledge that the prior administration did some things right. i'm struck listening to general mcmaster about how much the secret strategy that the president had of defeating isis we were going to hear about in 30 days turns out to be the obama administration's strategy. and there is nothing wrong with that. we can make improvements on what the last administration did. but they laid important building blocks. it will be very difficult for this administration in dealing with north korea to say we're going to renege on the nuclear deal with iran. those issues are interconnected. >> your committee is looking at russian interference with the
election. facebook turned over information to the investigation. that entities connected to russia bought at least $150,000 in targeted ads. information they have not turned over to your committee. what do you make of this? will you request the same information? >> we're requesting more information from facebook. and we have received some information. there are a lot of unanswered questions. i don't think facebook is reluctant to provide information to us because it would conflict with special counsel. i don't think it would conflict at all. there are issues about what legal process we need to use to get this information from facebook. but frankly, i'm distressed that it's taking this long to be informed that the russians paid for at least $100,000 in ads to try to influence our electoral process. it underscores what the intelligence community said before. the russians were aiming to
divide us. sew discord. set one american against another on some of the most divisive issues that we have. all americans, all patriotic americans of all parties ought to be outraged by that. we need to know the full extent of the use of social media to influence us. from facebook, from twitter, from google, from any social media. they need to be fully forthcoming. i'm confident they will. i think they should testify before congress. there's a lot we need to know about this. >> a tweet storm from the president this morning. including a retweet. i want to put it on the screen. it showed president trump swinging a golf ball, whacking it right into the back of hillary clinton. she goes down right there. kind of surprising. maybe it's not surprising. kind of alarming tweet right there. does it make you question how real this outreach to democrats was this week? >> well, it doesn't make me question that because i think all of us recognize that outreach for what it is. and that's purely transactional.
something that will come up from time to time when the president decides it's within his personal interest to work with democrats. this is a president with no ideology. he's not conservative. he's not liberal. the only consistent theme seems to be he's pro trump. he's for his own personal interests. sometimes those interests will align. we shouldn't cut off our nose to spite our face where they do align. where it makes sense for the american people, we should take advantage of the opportunity. it's distressing to have a president that will tweet and retweet things as juvenile as that. it doesn't help, i think, in terms of his stature. it doesn't help in terms of the stature of our whole country. so, that's a wholly separate issue. where the president decides it's within his interest to work with us, we stand ready to make progress on behalf of the american people. >> congressman schiff, thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks, george. when we come back, the "roundtable" is ready to weigh in on the chinese dinner deal with the democrats. sit real? can it last?
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it was a discussion. not a negotiation of agreement. not fix daca without fixing the root cause of our problem. we do not have control of our borders. we need border security and enforcement as part of any agreement. >> speaker ryan not all that comfortable after president trump's dinner with the democrats. let talk about what happened? what did not happen? jon karl, welcome back. katrina vanden heuvel.
alex castellanos. patrick gaspard. vice president of the oakland foundation. and alice stewart. cnn political commentator. jon, let's begin with the dinner. second week in a row the president reaches out to democrats. doesn't get the final deal this time. clearly seemed to know what he wanted and what he wanted to signal. >> absolutely. the bottom line is, paul ryan and mitch mcconnell could not deliver the votes. not on the debt ceiling. they can't deliver the votes on doing something on daca. the president needed to reach out to democrats. look what he's done. george, september was to be the month of government shutdown, chaos, default. president trump won september with the help of democrats. >> can he fade the heat from his base that was enraged by the reports of that dinner? >> i'm not so sure the base was that enraged at all. a lot of the trump-ian leadership. the breitbart-ians. the people who make money
generating eyeballs on the internet, yeah, sure, they were outraged. trump voters were sticking with him because he's still the alternative to two identical parties in washington. that are washington establishment. the republican party is so establishment it's saving obamacare. >> patrick, democrats trust nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to get a good deal. will they stick by it when it comes down to something on paper that they have to support? >> you have to admire as a democrat, chuck and nancy, as donald trump calls them. they're playing a weak hand exceedingly well. under donald trump, the oval office has become a zero gravity chamber. >> zero gravity? >> this president is unmoored. it's hard to imagine the durability of a deal brokered on performance, not principle. >> that's why i wonder, alice.
the president said, he still wans to get the wall. just maybe not part of this agreement on daca. there seemed to be disagreement to a path to citizenship. setting aside the broader approach, is there actually a deal to be had on immigration right now? >> there is. i think he's realizing now, look, the majority of americans want to accommodate dreamers. we have a large percentage. whether it's citizenship or legal status. he needs to recognize that something needs to be done to help. i think we have chuck and nancy going from the demonized to dealmakers is a step in the right direction for this administration. republicans have not been able to make deals with the -- regard to health care, tax reform, anything. here's the difficulty the president has. if he is able to make a deal with republicans and or with democrats, to what end? if he can't get the wall. border security, or everify. what is the gain for republicans? there will be backlash from breitbart and the steve kings of the world.
so while it's important to broaden his base, he needs to include something in this that helps to solidify his hard core base. >> can this partnership last? is it a partnership? >> it's a tactical alliance. be skeptical. to paraphrase ronald reagan, he said, trust. trust but verify. distrust, distrust, exploit. window of opportunity to help the dreamers. as patrick said, i think this doesn't hold. you have two parties, one this past week continues to try to strip millions of americans of health coverage. the other is putting out there a medicare for all bill. that would cover millions. there are fundamental differences. tax deform, which the republicans want to do, has been put on hold. we see broad cuts to social safety programs. all kinds of health, other regulations. which have made this country safer in the last period. i would say let the barkers like ann coulter, whiplash themselves into political gyrations. let breitbart called him amnesty
don. i do think it's out -- it's still too early to tell if he loses his past. i think he has a shrinking base. it could be political suicide. or the base goes with trump's party into 2018. the republicans lose seats. trump's party doesn't. >> i have talked to top white house officials. they say citizenship is part of the dreamers's solution is not a red line for the president. he could sign on to something. >> will the republicans follow him on it? >> also the question is democrats. there will be no wall funding. he wants money for border security. does want -- >> enforcement. >> enforcement. and what he wants is he wants more i.c.e. agents. thousands more i.c.e. agents. this will be portrayed as the deportation force. by democrats. will democrats sign off on it? >> it's a nonstarter. >> just on the raw politics, if you're sitting in congress, you're not paying attention to republicans and democrats. you're looking at the independent numbers. voters who stayed with trump in
the primary and general election, 98% of approval. those who only voted for him in the general, 66% approval. amongst those republicans. only 24% identify as republicans now. >> i want to bring that to alex. katrina talks about a two-party system. donald trump may be setting up a three-party system. >> that's right. i think we've become europe. i think we've become at least a three-party democracy. we have -- trump has taken over the republican party and remade it in his image. it's a nationalist, populist, outsider's party. leaving an insider crazy left democratic and a hollow republican party establishment that has said, we have figured out how to make obamacare more popular trying to kill it. trump can't win with 50%. he's figured out that if it's a three-party race in 2020, he can win with 40. he'll always win 40.
that's the geometry. republicans may take a beating in 2018. you're right. donald trump won't. >> trump is not fully untethered from gop orthodoxies. look at the roll back. >> the girl in the red dress or the girl in the democratic blue dress. >> the democrat party has its own struggles. there's a fight. an ascendant populist wing. i would argue that its proposals are common sense, humane, and majority. fight for $15. on environmental. the health care, medicare for all is a very popular bill. i think to attack it is very tough for people who have family members on medicare who have already tried to say obamacare is socialist and who -- whose tax policies are -- whose tax policies are about -- >> you said trump supports medicare for all? >> he has -- >> he has in the past.
>> he supports repeal and replace obamacare. what does that mean? we don't know. bernie sanders is talking about medicare for all. this is what democrats have always wanted. a pathway to universal health. this is one step in that direction. i'll hand it to democrats. they're at least unified on this. i think if nothing else, this will send a message to republicans we need to get on board with what we want to do to repeal and replace obamacare. right now, it's the graham-cassidy bill to block grant money to the states. that is a good effort. i think now that bernie sanders and a large majority of democrats have something on paper that makes sense to them, that should put fuel in the fire for republicans. >> you just mentioned the graham-cassidy bill. we all assumed repeal and replace was dead. this act is coming back. there's a september 30th deadline. can it actually pass? >> they still need 50 votes. you're not going to have rand paul. he's going to be against anything. you're not going to have susan collins. it may come down the lisa murkowski of alaska.
there is a renewed effort. and part of this is driven, i think because trump has shown a willingness to work with democrats. if the republicans can't do it, he'll strike a deal with democrats. they really won't like it. i think on bernie sanders, he's still not a democrat. but this is bernie sanders' party now. his single payer plan has 15 other co-sponsors. he did this year after year in the senate, nobody was on board. now any possible democratic presidential candidate in the senate is a co-sponsor. >> we have been fixed on hillary clinton's book this week. but it's bernie sanders who has changed -- >> he won. >> -- not only the dynamics of our politics but made what once seemed marginal, not at the nation, possible. many of them are going to be 2020 contenders. >> that's what i want to get to. that's where the energy is on the democratic side right now. let me bring this to you. 20-25 democratic candidates for president. in 2020. i think you could make the argument as of today, the two
front-runners are bernie sanders and joe biden. what does that mean? >> listen. i worked for a guy in 2008, a few weeks before he announced his candidacy. there were national stories. he was not featured in most of those stories. we were 25 points down in iowa and ended up winning. i would not put a lot of stock in -- who is polling well right now today. and i hope that there are 20 or 25 candidates who run for the democratic nomination because as the republicans showed in their last contest, the more ideas are litigated inside of primaries, the more -- you have in a general election. >> did the president guarantee -- all but guarantee a primary fight in 2020 if he indeed runs with what happened in the last ten days? >> i think he has a guaranteed fight within the party from the freedom caucus types. and i thing he's also guaranteed
a third party republican establishment candidate a seat in the general election. a john kasich. a bloomberg. somebody defending the principles of the republican party. even though they don't know what they are anymore. >> how much longer, mitch mcconnell and paul ryan, do they stand behind president trump? >> i think right now, they're facing a lot of pressure to really stand for something. get something done. they're getting a lot of pushback for their inability to get something done with regard to repeal and replace obamacare. and tax reform. and budget. look, they need to get on board or get out of the way. i think right now, if they don't get on board with the president, clearly, the president is willing to work across the aisle to get things done. and if that's what's -- what he's going to do, i think it's in the best interests of -- >> they're not going to get anything done on tax reform. the number one objective. >> they're utterly divided on that. and look, paul ryan had the opportunity to get to the right of president trump on immigration this week.
he had the opportunity to get out there and say, we need, you know, we need wall funding. tougher border security. it was an opportunity for him to get to some of that republican -- republican base that was so skeptical of him. breitbart is praising paul ryan. >> yeah, there's a civil war inside the republican party. the democrats are not going to cut deals on tax reform. the thing that trump put out there, the one-pager, is a recipe for just more inequality. and a failure to help working people. there is a -- but, you know. he didn't really say that clearly. he pulled it back. i think we're overreading trump's kind of not being a republican. he has given the republicans an enormous amount on -- on -- >> and be careful. donald trump is on his way to becoming as much your problem as he is the republicans problem. >> he's our problem, actually.
>> exploit this moment to help dreamers and find opportunities. but i think it's limited. it's transactional. his loyalty is a -- >> this is not about ideology or partisanship. he's like a sun flower. he'll lean wherever there is some kind of adulation. right now, that's coming from chuck and nancy. >> and he wants a deal. >> and the media, who is praising him for trying to find deals. >> we're more likely with this panel to influence donald trump than anything that's happened in the chambers of congress. >> at the same time, we have the problem of chuck and nancy. 67 years of wheeling and dealing in washington. donald trump, a lifetime of wheeling and dealing in real estate. the question is, who is going to pull the rug out from underneath the other one first? >> on that question, we have to end it. it's a very good question to end this. when we come back, more with theresa may. if you're anything like me, your to-do list just keeps growing.
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president trump in january. the hand-in-hand walk a vivid show of their personal relationship. you're coming to the united states this week. you're speaking to the united nations. you're relatively unknown to most americans. what is the most important thing you want them to know about what you're trying to achieve? >> well, there are two things. one is this issue of ensuring that we can stop terrorists from plotting online. plotting on the internet. and that we can stop the spread of the hateful, extremist ideology that can inspire terrorism. i think that is an important issue for us. and another issue is something most people probably don't think about. don't think happens, is what i call modern slavery. when people are being effectively taken into servitude into slavery for sexual exploitation, labor exploitation. it's happening under our noses. >> you have been prime minister for a little over a year right now.
came in after the brexit vote. became prim minister even though you were against brexit. so were you wrong about that? >> what i said at the time before the referendum vote was taken, was that on balance i thought it was right to remain in. but the sky wouldn't fall in if we left the european union. >> now you have to make it happen. >> now, i'm making it happen. that's right. obviously, we're in the negotiations. we must take opportunities from brexit. some people look at brexit and think it was about the uk turning inward. it wasn't. it's about looking out around the western world. but ensuring we can control our own laws, our money, and our borders. >> people look at it and say, it is never going to happen. >> it will happen. we're in the negotiations. and we're looking at -- the deal that we can do. the way that we can come to an agreement with a -- the eu for the future. for our future relationship in trading terms. but what this enables us to do
is by having our own control, is do our own trade deals. hence, we're talking to the united states. president trump is very enthusiastic about a trade deal. between the uk and the the u.s. and i am, too. >> it has taken its toll on your government. you almost lost the prime ministership back in june. the former minister, george osbourne said you're a dead woman walking. that passing brexit would be basically your last act. your response? >> my -- i'm going to pass brexit. i'm going to make thur sure it happens because the british people voted for it. i think it's really important that politicians do respond and do listen to people. we gave the public the choice. they made their choice. and -- that's why i think it's important. >> after that, you'll still be prime minister? >> well, the next election is not going to be until after we have the brexit. until after we withdraw from the european union.
>> you were the first foreign leader to meet with president trump. how do you get on with him? >> i do get on with him. he has an affection for the united kingdom. like many americans, he has family connections with the united kingdom. we work very well together. the u.s. and the uk have always had a special relationship and worked well together. >> you say that he has an affection for britain. it doesn't appear that the british people have an affection for him. a poll in june, 22% of the british people have confidence in him to do the right thing. for the world. what do you say to your fellow britishers? >> well, what i say is that they should see what president trump has done. one example, because i know a number of people were concerned before he became president about his statements about america's commitment to nato. nato has been the bedrock of european security. i was pleased when i came to see him shortly after the inauguration he gave a 100% absolute commitment to nato. america continues to stand by us
in supporting that security and ensuring that security of europe. >> you have the travel ban. his comments after charlottesville, pulling out of the paris climate change agreement. big differences. >> well, i think the point about the special relationship between the uk and the u.s. is that when we do disagree, we're able to say so. and pretty bluntly. for example, on the paris issue, that you talk about. the paris climate change agreement, i have made very clear i was dismayed when america decided to pull out of america decided to pull out of that. as i have said to president trump, i hope they'll find way for america to come back in. >> can he still come here for a state visit? >> her majesty, the queen, issued the invitation. the president has accepted it. it's a question of getting dates. the president accepted it. >> nothing to do with the opposition here in the united kingdom? >> no, this is about finding dates. the invitation was issued. and the invitation has been accepted. >> another missile test from north korea. just yesterday. do we just have to learn to live
with the idea that north korea will have nuclear weapons forever? >> look, what we have seen in recent weeks and indeed before that, is continuing provocation. from north korea. with illegal actions. these are illegal tests that they're taking out. carrying out. i think it's significant that we saw at the united nations security council, that unity. everybody coming together around the table, including russia and china, and agreeing to the stricter sanctions. >> these are still baby steps. aren't they? >> these are important. these are important steps. we're continuing to put pressure on north korea to stop what is illegal activity. >> i want to switch topics to russia now. there are reports that british intelligence were the first to tip off u.s. intelligence to the idea that russia was interfering in the united states elections. russia has also sbeer interfered in the french and german elections. do you think they have interfered with the brexit elections as well? >> there's no sign of that.
but the point that you make about interferes with elections is a very important one. a clear message should go that no country should be interfered in another country's election. the election should be free and fair. the view of the people. >> can the west work with putin? >> well, the west is working with putin. i mean, the united states and russia obviously are trying to find solutions in relation to syria. >> do you think he is a reliable partner there? >> i think what is important is that engagement takes place in the interest of the region and the world. >> hillary clinton has a new book out this week. looking back at the election. it's called "what happened." quite candid in many places. one of the things she talks about is being a woman in politics. she says it's not easy. in her own words, she says it's excruciating and can be humiliating. do you identify with that? >> i have always approached my being in politics in a simple way. not think about that i'm a woman
in politics in a sense of how i'm being treated by others. but just get on with the job that i'm doing. that's what i do. >> you know, we were getting a tour of 10 downing street before you came in. we're told that margaret thatcher left a little mark up in the corner of that door. the little thatcher there. what mark do you intend to leave on 10 downing street? >> well, i'm not sure i'm going to go round destroying the furniture or the walls with putting marks in or anything like that. but, i just -- i'm here as prime minister. i'm getting on with the job. dealing with challenges that we face here in the united kingdom. some are challenges that we face like ensuring we get brexit right. but actually, there are other challenges which are shared around the world. dealing with terrorism. dealing with modern slavery.
ensuring we have free trade that brings prosperity and jobs to people. those are the challenges we're facing. >> thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> it sounds like the british prime minister may welcome the news from the white house on paris climate change if it does, indeed, hold. we'll be right back. t does, indeed, hold. we'll be right back. >>